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Kicked off campus? Faculty push ban on non-motorized vehicles

Abstract:
Those who use bicycles, skateboards or other non-motorized vehicles on campus are now being formally challenged at the university level by some faculty members at SJSU.


Members of the California State University Employees Union filed a health and safety grievance Nov. 21, 2007, claiming that non-motorized vehicles are dangerous and hazardous and should be banned on campus....

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Steve Sloan

posted 5/01/08 @ 11:34 AM PST

While not accurate in detail on some things, I think the story caught the spirit of the issue.

This is grievance about safety, not alternative transportation. For employees, the university is a work place. Employees are entitled by law (and contract) to a safe work environment. I also think students are entitled to a safe campus. Folks with disabilities are entitled to have a university that is not made inaccessible by dangers, obstacles and trip hazards. Tax payers are entitled to have state agencies not take unnecessary risks and exposure to lawsuit.

Today was a great day for a bike ride. I rode my bike to work again today. After riding about eleven miles to SJSU I did not see any reason to ride the extra few hundred feet to my desk. I rode around SJSU on the public streets and parked my bike in one of the many bike corrals around campus and walked to my desk. This is not a large sprawling campus.

Mike Lowell

posted 5/02/08 @ 7:08 PM PST

Originally posted by

Steve Sloan

While not accurate in detail on some things, I think the story caught the spirit of the issue.

This is grievance about safety, not alternative transportation. For employees, the university is a work place. Employees are entitled by law (and contract) to a safe work environment. I also think students are entitled to a safe campus. Folks with disabilities are entitled to have a university that is not made inaccessible by dangers, obstacles and trip hazards. Tax payers are entitled to have state agencies not take unnecessary risks and exposure to lawsuit.

Today was a great day for a bike ride. I rode my bike to work again today. After riding about eleven miles to SJSU I did not see any reason to ride the extra few hundred feet to my desk. I rode around SJSU on the public streets and parked my bike in one of the many bike corrals around campus and walked to my desk. This is not a large sprawling campus.


Steve Sloan, I've read your blog, I've seen your flickr stream, and I've even been following your twitter stream, but I can't bring myself to follow your arguments about campus grounds being the "factory floor for university employees", or that the elimination of non-motorized vehicles on campus will reduce accidents.
The Campus pathways were created to facilitate the movement of students, teachers, and staff from one part of campus to another, and should not be treated as an FD&O parking lot.
I have never had any problems with non motorized vehicles while walking or riding on campus. I only seem to have problems with the constant presence of motorized vehicles on campus as they travel at much higher speeds than non-motorized vehicles and often times do not slow down until they are right on top of pedestrians (figuratively). I've been forced off of pedestrian walkways numerous times by motorized vehicles on campus. It happens when I'm cycling, it happens when I'm skating, it happens when I'm walking. Motorized vehicles on campus are a true nuisance; they take up valuable space, over crowd walkways, park where they please, and obstruct our ability to reasonably and safely move about campus.
I can also honestly say that I also have more anxiety over the safety of some of the elevators on campus than any non motorized vehicles, especially in Duncan Hall where malfunctioning elevators are a common occurrence.
You also claim that you are for alternative modes of transportation, but if this repeal goes through it will ultimately stifle the alternatives. The only people who would still be willing to use alternative modes of transportation would be long distance commuters, because you can't seriously expect people to lock up or walk their scooters and skateboards. Even then, the number of long distance cycle commuters would be drastically reduced because the university(A.K.A "factory") doesn't provide enough designated areas to park bikes. If you took all the bikes parked on campus and tried to fit them into university designated parking areas, you'd end up with more bikes than you have spaces for.
My suggestion for you is to stop for a moment, take a step back from the situation and come back to it with a more progressive approach rather than simply taking the convenience out of non-motorized vehicles:

If you really are for alternative modes of transportation and the safety/well being of all people on campus, then why not promote smart, responsible, and courteous use of both non-motorized vehicles AND pedestrians. Why not take all that time and energy you're spending on essentially removing non-motorized vehicles from campus, and reallocate it towards teaching cyclists why they shouldn't park in front of egress sites, or why it's really not a good idea to skate in the rain, or blast music on your headphones when you're walking or raiding around in a crowd of mixed traffic. The list goes on, but the point is that I see no reason why we can't continue to safely have non-motorized vehicles on campus, and I think that we can do alot more by promoting safe use, rather than restricting it.

cassie

posted 5/01/08 @ 4:03 PM PST

Im quite surprised of the proposed ban on non-motorized vehicles. With increasing gas prices, as well as the price of everything else it seems, I would imagine we would encourage the use of non-motorized vehicles and further develop the community with more and safer lock up facilities. The Bay Area takes pride in our Bicycle Community and it makes no sense to me whatsoever to but put a stop to the growth of it at SJSU. It is not doubt part of the Bay Area's future, others must accept this and we need to have forward thinking on how we develop our community. There are easily other solutions to this "problem" than banning it.

Steve Sloan

posted 5/01/08 @ 6:09 PM PST

As I said, this is a grievance about safety, not against alternative transportation. Solutions that provide both are encouraged. But, safety has to be provided for!

I am in favor of cycling and any other form of human powered transportation. Today was a great day for a bike ride. I rode my bike to SJSU again today. After riding about eleven miles to SJSU, I did not see any reason I had to ride the extra few hundred feet to my desk. I rode around SJSU on the public streets and parked my bike in one of the many bike corrals around campus and walked to my desk.

Steve

posted 5/01/08 @ 11:32 PM PST

Yeah, hate it when those herds of bicycle riders come stomping through campus like a stampede...
There are not many people on campus on bikes, skateboards and scooters.
The faculty is overreacting on this issue.
As far as people riding through hallways, I haven't personally seen anything like that, but those are the people that should be cited if it is going on.
The campus is large enough... just share the area.

Sammy Santana

posted 5/02/08 @ 2:12 PM PST

Yesterday, as I was walking to my car in the parking garage, this car was driving fast through the lanes and almost hit me. That's why I think we should completely ban all cars from the university. Cars are way too dangerous and should be illegal. Want to drive to campus? Too bad. Park somewhere else.

When I finally got to my car and I was driving out of the lot, a bird pooped on the hood of my car, that's why I think we should also ban all birds from campus too, because that poop could have fallen in my eye and I could have been blinded or paralyzed or killed. Ban all cars and birds from SJSU now!

Mike S

posted 5/03/08 @ 11:40 PM PST

My bike is my method of transportation to and from school. As it is in my best interests to not collide with anything nor anyone, I take care to safely maneuver on campus and avoid crowds if possible and use the lowest gear if it is not. Those who ride bikes on campus are not trying to maliciously endanger pedestrians, but rather avoid them.

Mr. Sloan, with respect, I feel that this is a pet issue of yours and perhaps a small handful of others. I also believe it is a waste of effort. If we're going to allow UPD to barrel through San Carlos at high speeds to provide for our safety, the cause which you cite as your inspiration, then there should be no problem with students trying to get to class on bike.

Blake Southwood

posted 5/05/08 @ 5:13 AM PST

The day that skateboards are banned on this campus
I will celebrate. While we're at it we should ban smoking on campus since it does cause cancer. This is not a skateboard park - this is a U N I V E R S I T Y. This is NOT high school. This is a place to learn knowledge, and not how to do tricks on a skateboard at 1 in the morning in front of the Spartan Village.

Steve Sloan

posted 5/07/08 @ 1:07 PM PST

Absolutely, safety is a pet issue of mine. It is also a legal and a contractual requirement for the university to provide a safe working environment. That is why the union has filed a grievance. I think the university has an obligation to provide for the safety of persons who go to school here. Also, I think that folks who have disabilities should not have to fear collisions with moving skateboarders and cyclists on campus.

Mike Lowell

posted 5/08/08 @ 4:49 AM PST

Steve Sloan, I've read your blog, I've seen your flickr stream, and I've even been following your twitter stream, but I can't bring myself to follow your arguments about campus grounds being the "factory floor for university employees", or that the elimination of non-motorized vehicles on campus will reduce accidents.
The Campus pathways were created to facilitate the movement of students, teachers, and staff from one part of campus to another, and should not be treated as an FD&O parking lot.
I have never had any problems with non motorized vehicles while walking or riding on campus. I only seem to have problems with the constant presence of motorized vehicles on campus as they travel at much higher speeds than non-motorized vehicles and often times do not slow down until they are right on top of pedestrians (figuratively). I've been forced off of pedestrian walkways numerous times by motorized vehicles on campus. It happens when I'm cycling, it happens when I'm skating, it happens when I'm walking. Motorized vehicles on campus are a true nuisance; they take up valuable space, over crowd walkways, park where they please, and obstruct our ability to reasonably and safely move about campus.
I can also honestly say that I also have more anxiety over the safety of some of the elevators on campus than any non motorized vehicles, especially in Duncan Hall where malfunctioning elevators are a common occurrence.
You also claim that you are for alternative modes of transportation, but if this repeal goes through it will ultimately stifle the alternatives. The only people who would still be willing to use alternative modes of transportation would be long distance commuters, because you can't seriously expect people to lock up or walk their scooters and skateboards. Even then, the number of long distance cycle commuters would be drastically reduced because the university(A.K.A "factory") doesn't provide enough designated areas to park bikes. If you took all the bikes parked on campus and tried to fit them into university designated parking areas, you'd end up with more bikes than you have spaces for.
My suggestion for you is to stop for a moment, take a step back from the situation and come back to it with a more progressive approach rather than simply taking the convenience out of non-motorized vehicles:

If you really are for alternative modes of transportation and the safety/well being of all people on campus, then why not promote smart, responsible, and courteous use of both non-motorized vehicles AND pedestrians. Why not take all that time and energy you're spending on essentially removing non-motorized vehicles from campus, and reallocate it towards teaching cyclists why they shouldn't park in front of egress sites, or why it's really not a good idea to skate in the rain, or blast music on your headphones when you're walking or raiding around in a crowd of mixed traffic. The list goes on, but the point is that I see no reason why we can't continue to safely have non-motorized vehicles on campus, and I think that we can do alot more by promoting safe use, rather than restricting it.

John

posted 5/08/08 @ 2:10 PM PST

I see the vague word "safety" being thrown around in the article a lot, with no real clarification on what exactly that entails. If someone rides a bicycle along a 15 foot wide pathway, what exactly is going to happen? And if it is such an issue, why has there not been any trouble so far?

If anything, its the motorized vehicles that should be banned from campus. Those little carts get in everyone's way (including parking along the rails that bicycles are not allowed to park against) and the university police use high-traffic areas as their own personal freeways. (Both are necessary for emergencies or for transporting heavy equipment, but not because of day-to-day laziness. This is not a large sprawling campus.) Now that is more defensible as a "safety" issue, as it could actually do some damage if an incident were to occur. Which again, it hasn't to the best of my knowledge.

Anonymous

posted 5/09/08 @ 1:32 PM PST

What I'd be curious about is if and how that might extend to effect things governing use of small motorized vehicles like motorized bicycles and scooters.

Steve Sloan

posted 5/14/08 @ 1:20 PM PST

The main thrust of the grievance is this, article 23.1 of our contract, "The CSU recognizes the importance of procedures and policies for the protection of health and safety of employees and shall endeavor to maintain such conditions conducive to the health and safety of the employees."
This is a contractual obligation on the part of the university. When an employee, group of employees and/or the union allegese the collective bargaining agreement has been violated they can file a grievance, "there has been a violation, misapplication, or misinterpretation of a specific term(s) of this Agreement."
What we have done is to present our best case that there is a safety hazard posed on our campus by non-motorized vehicles. The university has to prove that there is not a hazard.
The grievance process has many steps, the last is level four, "If the grievance has not been settled at Level III, the Union alone may, no later than forty (40) days after the Level III response, submit the grievance to arbitration..."
Both sides present there cases. The union has discovery rights, and the decision will be made by an arbitrator that is not affiliated with SJSU or CSU, "The standard of review for the arbitrator is whether the CSU violated, misapplied, or misinterpreted a specific term(s) of this Agreement." and "The arbitrator's award shall be final and binding on both parties."

Anon

posted 5/15/08 @ 10:41 PM PST

Originally posted by

Steve Sloan

The main thrust of the grievance is this, article 23.1 of our contract, "The CSU recognizes the importance of procedures and policies for the protection of health and safety of employees and shall endeavor to maintain such conditions conducive to the health and safety of the employees."
This is a contractual obligation on the part of the university. When an employee, group of employees and/or the union allegese the collective bargaining agreement has been violated they can file a grievance, "there has been a violation, misapplication, or misinterpretation of a specific term(s) of this Agreement."
What we have done is to present our best case that there is a safety hazard posed on our campus by non-motorized vehicles. The university has to prove that there is not a hazard.
The grievance process has many steps, the last is level four, "If the grievance has not been settled at Level III, the Union alone may, no later than forty (40) days after the Level III response, submit the grievance to arbitration..."
Both sides present there cases. The union has discovery rights, and the decision will be made by an arbitrator that is not affiliated with SJSU or CSU, "The standard of review for the arbitrator is whether the CSU violated, misapplied, or misinterpreted a specific term(s) of this Agreement." and "The arbitrator's award shall be final and binding on both parties."


Thanks Mr. Sloan, that one'd been eating at me for awhile now.

So long as they don't ban novehicular travel too, I'm happy.
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