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Two engineering students were stopped in the Seventh Street Plaza and forced to kneel below the mock guns grasped by three students portraying Israeli soldiers, in an outdoor performance representing military checkpoints in the West Bank and Gaza.



Dressed in army fatigues, Hanny Zaki, a junior majoring in international business and a member of Students for Change, the campus organization that planned the event for Palestine Awareness Week, shouted at the two volunteering students for proof of identification, attracting the attention Zaki said they needed to bring awareness to the plight of Palestinians.

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Ted Rudow III,MA

posted 4/26/07 @ 7:03 AM PST

Pray for the poor Palestinians who are suffering so greatly. Pray for the innocent Israelis who die or are wounded in terrorist bombings. Pray for the other Arabs, that they'll stand up for their Palestinian brethren for a change. Pray for the Americans, that they'll make the Israelis toe the line and stop the slaughter. Pray for peace, that's one reason why Palestinians are skeptical about peace treaties and agreements with Israel--nothing ever really changes very much. It just gets worse--for them, that is.
The Israelis and the world media trumpet the "breakthrough agreement" or "historic peace plan." Meanwhile, the settlement building and expansion goes on, under other names and guises, while the bulldozers continue to roll, Palestinian territories and cities are surrounded by roadblocks, barbed wire, tanks and snipers, and things change very little for the poor Palestinians.
Pray for peace for all those people, and especially for the peacemakers--I don't think you can call the U.S. the world's leading champion of peace, considering how many wars and conflicts it's been involved in and considering how eager it is to sell arms to those who would start new ones or keep old ones going!
Ask the Palestinians, who are being tear-gassed by American-made chemicals, shot by American weapons, and bombed by American missiles, how peaceful the U.S is. American arms how peaceful the U.S. is. Or ask the millions of others who are involved in conflicts in Africa, Asia, the Mid-east and Europe, fueled and kept going by low-cost American arms, how peaceful the U.S. is.
If the U.S. would export half as much peace as it does weapons--working on feeding the poor, clothing the needy, and providing jobs to the destitute--then it would make the world a far better place!
Ted Rudow III,MA
former grad student

Rose

posted 5/09/07 @ 6:48 PM PST

I am a student at West Hills College Lemoore. Last semester I took our transfer English class and we were assigned the book "Blood Brothers" by Elias Chacour. Chacour (or Father Elias as he is now known) was an 8 yr old Palestinian boy living in Galilee in 1948 when their "Blood Brothers" came to visit from troubled areas in Europe and Asia. Within two weeks Elias and his family, along with everyone else in the town were told to find refuge in the surrounding hills as trouble was about to occur. The fathers led their families out of harms way only to discover their land was taken over by these visitors. Elias was not embittered by this, although he was confused. His father was a true peace keeper and taught this to Elias and his brothers. Father Chacour now runs the only multicultural University in Israel where Jews, Muslims and Christians study in peace under the same roof! -- Get the book and see for yourself!
Originally posted by

Ted Rudow III,MA

Pray for the poor Palestinians who are suffering so greatly. Pray for the innocent Israelis who die or are wounded in terrorist bombings. Pray for the other Arabs, that they'll stand up for their Palestinian brethren for a change. Pray for the Americans, that they'll make the Israelis toe the line and stop the slaughter. Pray for peace, that's one reason why Palestinians are skeptical about peace treaties and agreements with Israel--nothing ever really changes very much. It just gets worse--for them, that is.
The Israelis and the world media trumpet the "breakthrough agreement" or "historic peace plan." Meanwhile, the settlement building and expansion goes on, under other names and guises, while the bulldozers continue to roll, Palestinian territories and cities are surrounded by roadblocks, barbed wire, tanks and snipers, and things change very little for the poor Palestinians.
Pray for peace for all those people, and especially for the peacemakers--I don't think you can call the U.S. the world's leading champion of peace, considering how many wars and conflicts it's been involved in and considering how eager it is to sell arms to those who would start new ones or keep old ones going!
Ask the Palestinians, who are being tear-gassed by American-made chemicals, shot by American weapons, and bombed by American missiles, how peaceful the U.S is. American arms how peaceful the U.S. is. Or ask the millions of others who are involved in conflicts in Africa, Asia, the Mid-east and Europe, fueled and kept going by low-cost American arms, how peaceful the U.S. is.
If the U.S. would export half as much peace as it does weapons--working on feeding the poor, clothing the needy, and providing jobs to the destitute--then it would make the world a far better place!
Ted Rudow III,MA
former grad student

Andrew

posted 5/24/07 @ 11:54 PM PST

Originally posted by

Ted Rudow III,MA

Pray for the poor Palestinians who are suffering so greatly. Pray for the innocent Israelis who die or are wounded in terrorist bombings. Pray for the other Arabs, that they'll stand up for their Palestinian brethren for a change. Pray for the Americans, that they'll make the Israelis toe the line and stop the slaughter. Pray for peace, that's one reason why Palestinians are skeptical about peace treaties and agreements with Israel--nothing ever really changes very much. It just gets worse--for them, that is.
The Israelis and the world media trumpet the "breakthrough agreement" or "historic peace plan." Meanwhile, the settlement building and expansion goes on, under other names and guises, while the bulldozers continue to roll, Palestinian territories and cities are surrounded by roadblocks, barbed wire, tanks and snipers, and things change very little for the poor Palestinians.
Pray for peace for all those people, and especially for the peacemakers--I don't think you can call the U.S. the world's leading champion of peace, considering how many wars and conflicts it's been involved in and considering how eager it is to sell arms to those who would start new ones or keep old ones going!
Ask the Palestinians, who are being tear-gassed by American-made chemicals, shot by American weapons, and bombed by American missiles, how peaceful the U.S is. American arms how peaceful the U.S. is. Or ask the millions of others who are involved in conflicts in Africa, Asia, the Mid-east and Europe, fueled and kept going by low-cost American arms, how peaceful the U.S. is.
If the U.S. would export half as much peace as it does weapons--working on feeding the poor, clothing the needy, and providing jobs to the destitute--then it would make the world a far better place!
Ted Rudow III,MA
former grad student

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You're an idiot.

Hanh

posted 4/26/07 @ 8:54 AM PST

This is insanse... If the Palestine people want to change, they need to do it...in their home and by themselves. What can we do over here as student, should we join you and fight for your freedom?. ... We are aware what is going on in Middle East already. ..But sorry my friends, we are students, we go to school and work like crazy.... Please don't stress us out like media do..... Anther article "Some sleepless in San Jose" by Andy Chu, yes, we are stressed out...please put us under your consideration.

James Desmond

posted 4/26/07 @ 1:45 PM PST

"Apartheid Wall"?

Are the editors of the Spartan Daily aware that this description of the separation barrier appeared in the story outside of quotation?

Are we now to assume the Spartan Daily now a satellite division of Al-Jazeera?

Leila Forouhi

posted 4/26/07 @ 5:38 PM PST

Thank-you Spartan Daily for supporting this student activity. Muslim students need to unite with other students on campus no matter what religion or race - I would like to see a dialogue between the Jewish and Muslim student groups. Thank you to everyone who came out to support us.

Amir Margittai

posted 5/07/07 @ 8:42 PM PST

Originally posted by

Leila Forouhi

Thank-you Spartan Daily for supporting this student activity. Muslim students need to unite with other students on campus no matter what religion or race - I would like to see a dialogue between the Jewish and Muslim student groups. Thank you to everyone who came out to support us.


How could there be any dialogue between the Jewish and the Muslim students? Do you want the Jewish students to defend their existence in the Middle East? Your demonstration was obstreperous to say the least. The timing of your demonstration was totally uncalled for considering that the Virginia Tech shooting was still in the headlines. I think you should be a shamed of your self for having this demonstration.

Amir Margittai

khalid and raed

posted 4/27/07 @ 1:55 AM PST

Great article, GOOD Job

Mark

posted 4/27/07 @ 5:10 PM PST

Great. Now the Spartan Daily is sounding like Al-Jazerra West.

Robert Haim

posted 4/27/07 @ 5:31 PM PST

I guess it would be very difficult to do a mock performance of the palestinian terrorists who bomb restaurants in Israel:-)

Or when they shoot rockets to civilian areas in Israel.

Remember, if the Palestinians put their guns down we will have peace. If the Israelis put their guns down, we will have a genocide of Jews once again.

Julia Martisius

posted 4/27/07 @ 10:07 PM PST

Dear Editor,
I am appalled and offended by the display put on by Students for Change, and even more by the irresponsible journalism that took place after. As a reader of the Spartan Daily, and as a taxpayer, I expect more from this paper than the kind of poor editing that has been displayed. To pass this article off as journalism should be a crime, and is a disservice to readers who take the information that they read as factual and accurate. Every person has a right to their opinion, but a journalist is expected to do perform their work with a certain amount of integrity and also a responsibility to represent the truth supported by facts. This article, on the other hand, should have been placed in the opinion page. Not only does it fail to give both sides a voice, but it also is thoroughly saturated with misinformation.
It is absolutely irresponsible to throw around the words 'Apartheid' and 'genocide' without pausing to consider the gravity of their meaning. To use the word Apartheid to refer to anything but the lamentable situation in South Africa is to undermine the very cause of those people. I am shocked that the Black American and African American communities standing by silently.
To use the word genocide in reference to a situation that bears no such resemblance to the meaning of the word is to undermine the events suffered by victims of the Holocaust, Armenian Genocide, Genocide in Rwanda, Ethnic Cleansing in Kosovo, and Genocide in Darfur (to name a few).
I am dissappointed that our administration approves events that ultimately have a hateful purpose. In essence, the administration is successfully giving the finger to the entire Jewish community as long as it promotes such hate speech.
Polarizing the issue and demonizing groups on opposing sides serves to do nothing but promote the conflict. If Students for Change really cared to promote education and information regarding the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, they would lobby for more classes addressing the issue. Instead they have only succeeded at offending students and faculty members with emotionally charged skits, and at alienating and terrifying the rest of the students on campus. Shame on them.

Max Grossman

posted 4/28/07 @ 12:03 PM PST

Dear Sirs and Madams,

This is a follow-up to my face-to-face conversation on April 28 with managing editor Sara Spivey, who, together with executive editor Kris Anderson, is responsible for permitting Carla Mancebo to publish this hateful and unprofessional article. The text includes four citations of a so-called "Apartheid Wall", built by the Israeli government in order to save innocent people from suicide bombing attacks that have already claimed more than 800 Jewish and Arab lives during the last six years. That the writer, with the sanction of the above-named editors, was permitted to insert her personal ideology into her piece and pass it off as journalism is shameful and reflects poorly on the Spartan Daily as well as the university as an academic institution. What is worse, Mancebo failed to balance her essay with quotations from counter-protesters, giving voice only to the rally's organizers and their sympathizers. Finally, I find it truly disgraceful that the article includes no comment on the fact that the protesters carried false weapons, without any regard for the feelings of their fellow students in the aftermath of the Virginia Tech massacre. Indeed, the university's Candlelight Vigil took place nearly simultaneously! That the display of the protesters included signs implicitly calling for the destruction of Israel and, by necessity, the murder of all the Jews within, evaded any commentary as well. For the record, the permit for the rally, signed by the Events Office in the Student Union and viewed by myself, was for a photographic display, not for a mock checkpoint with mock soldiers conducting mock interrogations and mock torture. I can only hope that in the future the editors Anderson and Spivey will demonstrate better leadership and professional skills and reign in the extremist rants of propagandists such as Carla Mancebo.

Max Grossman, Ph.D.
School of Art and Design
San Jose State University

Merlin Dorfman

posted 4/28/07 @ 3:20 PM PST

"In Palestine there are kids who just want to go to school but are unable to because of walls and checkpoints," says Hanny Zaki. In Israel there are kids who are dead because of suicide bombers and rockets coming from the Palestinian territories. You can argue whether Israeli policies in response to terrorism are as wise as they might be (certainly there are Palestinian kids who are needlessly dead too), but for Zaki and others to complain about those policies without any background as to why they might be in place--apparently the Israelis do it just "because they can"--is dishonest, and for the Spartan Daily to print the story without any such background is poor journalism.
And as far as those Palestinian schools, kids are taught there, in violation of the Oslo accords, to hate Israel, Jews, and America.

Kyle

posted 4/29/07 @ 3:03 PM PST

These walls and checkpoints wouldn't exist if radical Palestinians weren't blowing up Israeli civilians every month. Students for Change sounds like another idealistic left wing organization....

Katie

posted 4/30/07 @ 11:56 AM PST

This is outrageous. What unbiased new source actually calls something an "apartheid wall"? Why are there no sources as to Israel's official statements for building the wall? The person responsible for this article should carefully consider the impact that they have on students with no idea as to what is going on in Israel.

Oyster

posted 4/30/07 @ 9:26 PM PST

To get the Jewish response to this incident, please read below:
http://oybay.wordpress.com/2007/04/30/the-tide-is-turning/

Joan Grossman

posted 5/02/07 @ 7:52 PM PST

This is a an example of a "journalist" imposing her own bias into her reporting. Clearly she is in the anti-Zionist camp and and recklessly revealed her own opinions in what should have been a balanced report. The writer of this article needs to learn about what Israel means to the Jews and the ongoing struggle to keep our precious Israeli democracy alive in the face of a ruthless enemy.

I lived in Israel in the mid 1960's on a kibbutz. We went to sleep at night knowing that we were watched over by night guards with uzi's. Back in those days Arabs from Syria or Jordan used to raid the peaceful farming settlements and slaughter people in their sleep. As terrible as that was in those days, it pales in comparison to what those people are capable of now. It makes me sick that anyone could ever defend a cause that would mean the destruction of Israel.

SM

posted 5/08/07 @ 10:08 AM PST

For those who are questioning why you should care about the Palestinians under the Israeli occupation, either you are totally deceive about the issue and the truth or you are heartless persons who have a selective sensitivity and care about some issues but not others that are equally valued. If you aren't aware, I would like to reveal the truth to you that your tax money is paying to sustain this dreadful occupation that Israel is conducting against the Palestinian people who aspire for independence and freedom like anyone of you here and everywhere. If you suspect the honesty of those students who are mocking the Israeli occupation and its brutality on campus, you might want to read a Jewish point of view about the gruesome reality of Israeli occupation on the Palestinian people. Here is an article written by an Israeli Jewish journalist who has conscience and has sense of equality and justice: Bushra's final exam and see for yourself the image of Bushra's blood-stained grammar workbook now serves as a kind of memorial. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/855435.html
Spartan should represent all campus communities in the paper and I thank them for doing it and being courageous at this time of censorship, intimidation and blindness of the media to this issue and others.

Vusi Maseko

posted 5/25/07 @ 12:35 AM PST

I am upset by such twisted protests such as this one. In South Africa we blacks were persecuted for being black and African. We were humiliated and suffered greatly by a racist government bent on white supreme racism. Please note that we did not start wars (the Arabs started the so-called "occupation" by attacking Israel not once but a couple of times), we did not perform suicide bombings (before the first suicide bombings there was no security checkpoint of "apartheid" walls in the Israel) we did not strap bombs around our children nor did we send them to school to learn about how satanic and evil the whites where (something that happens daily in the Arab schools in Historical Israel).

Lastly, this article pains me because we blacks - Africans – Bantoes, Xhosas; Zulus lived in South Africa for thousands of years with no white man here before us. Our claim to this country is valid in that we have always lived here. The Arabs only arrived in Historical Israel after a thousand or two years of being an Israeli homeland. They occupied what was not theirs and now they are complaining that the original people came back to their houses, just like the racist whites in South Africa is complaining about us taking back our farms and cities.

The West Bank, Gaza – these are Jewish homelands – just like Pretoria (Arabs=whites) are ancient Tswane and like Natal= Arab Palestine) is the kingdom of Zululand.

One more thing – it is important to note that this conflict has its roots in Arab culture/religion which clearly emphasises that once a place has become Muslim that it should never fall into the hands of Jews and Christians again. This is why they are lying to their children; this is why the other Arabs won't accept them back to their original homelands like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria etc.

Christians who support these Arabs should convert to Islam - so that we can know who is our enemy and who is not.

Continued disallusionment

posted 5/04/08 @ 2:21 AM PST

Originally posted by

Vusi Maseko

I am upset by such twisted protests such as this one. In South Africa we blacks were persecuted for being black and African. We were humiliated and suffered greatly by a racist government bent on white supreme racism. Please note that we did not start wars (the Arabs started the so-called "occupation" by attacking Israel not once but a couple of times), we did not perform suicide bombings (before the first suicide bombings there was no security checkpoint of "apartheid" walls in the Israel) we did not strap bombs around our children nor did we send them to school to learn about how satanic and evil the whites where (something that happens daily in the Arab schools in Historical Israel).

Lastly, this article pains me because we blacks - Africans – Bantoes, Xhosas; Zulus lived in South Africa for thousands of years with no white man here before us. Our claim to this country is valid in that we have always lived here. The Arabs only arrived in Historical Israel after a thousand or two years of being an Israeli homeland. They occupied what was not theirs and now they are complaining that the original people came back to their houses, just like the racist whites in South Africa is complaining about us taking back our farms and cities.

The West Bank, Gaza – these are Jewish homelands – just like Pretoria (Arabs=whites) are ancient Tswane and like Natal= Arab Palestine) is the kingdom of Zululand.

One more thing – it is important to note that this conflict has its roots in Arab culture/religion which clearly emphasises that once a place has become Muslim that it should never fall into the hands of Jews and Christians again. This is why they are lying to their children; this is why the other Arabs won't accept them back to their original homelands like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria etc.

Christians who support these Arabs should convert to Islam - so that we can know who is our enemy and who is not.




This whole outrage is crazy. Why is it that whenever there is an article about Israelis usurping Palestinian land it is not necessary to "show the other side." The story was reporting on an event on campus, and it gave the facts with quotes from people that were organizing it to show why they were there. Most of the article was quotes! Most of the articles int he Spartan Daily are filled with too many quotes and not enough analysis of the issues. This whole thing is just ridiculous. It just seems like everyone has picked their sides and has a memorized set of points about why they are right and the other side is wrong and no ideas about how to fix it or change it. But one things seems obvious, how could the problem be solved without the Palestinian side being represented? The innocent civilians of Palestine that are suffering are no more culpable than those victims of suicide bombings. Maybe Americans should stop and ask themselves why they teach in some Arab schools to hate our country. maybe there is a reason, like for instance the exportation of arms and weaponry. They say that before people lived on North America they migrated over from the land bridge to Russia...does that mean we can go settle in Russia with no resistance? I think the displacement of the Palestinians is a valid concern and those of unstable and infirm capacity that have been unable to cope with the transgression have been driven to insanity because they see no other way. These insane people have been sparked because of their frustration that no one will listen. No one will give them a chance to tell their story. TO report the facts about what is happening there in the country to the people without focusing on the justification of some political goals. I think the Spartan Daily reporter did nothing wrong and reported the facts of what she saw and who was there.

Venom

posted 10/31/08 @ 1:06 PM PST

Originally posted by

Vusi Maseko

I am upset by such twisted protests such as this one. In South Africa we blacks were persecuted for being black and African. We were humiliated and suffered greatly by a racist government bent on white supreme racism. Please note that we did not start wars (the Arabs started the so-called "occupation" by attacking Israel not once but a couple of times), we did not perform suicide bombings (before the first suicide bombings there was no security checkpoint of "apartheid" walls in the Israel) we did not strap bombs around our children nor did we send them to school to learn about how satanic and evil the whites where (something that happens daily in the Arab schools in Historical Israel).

Lastly, this article pains me because we blacks - Africans – Bantoes, Xhosas; Zulus lived in South Africa for thousands of years with no white man here before us. Our claim to this country is valid in that we have always lived here. The Arabs only arrived in Historical Israel after a thousand or two years of being an Israeli homeland. They occupied what was not theirs and now they are complaining that the original people came back to their houses, just like the racist whites in South Africa is complaining about us taking back our farms and cities.

The West Bank, Gaza – these are Jewish homelands – just like Pretoria (Arabs=whites) are ancient Tswane and like Natal= Arab Palestine) is the kingdom of Zululand.

One more thing – it is important to note that this conflict has its roots in Arab culture/religion which clearly emphasises that once a place has become Muslim that it should never fall into the hands of Jews and Christians again. This is why they are lying to their children; this is why the other Arabs won't accept them back to their original homelands like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria etc.

Christians who support these Arabs should convert to Islam - so that we can know who is our enemy and who is not.






------ Venom ------

WOW, why on earth are you upset about something that happened decades, centuries ago?? Look towards the future if you want to make a difference.
It's also fact that your own kind (yes, Black Africans) SOLD your auntcestors to the sailors who harbored to buy goods in Africa, so why all the fingers pointing and blame on whites?

my .2 cents
-Venom

Pakman209

posted 5/27/08 @ 9:32 PM PST

Al-Jazeera should be compared to Fox News not The Daily.

Suicide bombing is not a justifiable reaction to the way a group people are treated. I feel that there are people in society that feel to capture attention of the majority there most be some shock value in their protest. This form hasn't worked in Palestine, ala Suicide bombing, and won't work on campuses as well. Succesful protest was preformed by the Ghandis and Martin Luther Kings of the world. Protest in ways that don't belittle others in the community. I am a Pakistani male and sure would not like it if I witnessed others reenacting terriost attacks to educate all. True or false, its not the correct way of informing and educating society. I hope next time students choose to protest it should be done in a more appropriate and sensitve manner.
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